A chat with Peter Perri changed my views on hydrogen

Had a great chat with Peter Perri about various forms of energy.

Peter actually got me to change some of my viewpoints about hydrogen during our discussion.

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Podcast Summary

“… In this episode, Tom explains why quitting fossil fuels is perhaps not such a good idea:

● According to Tom, the laws of physics do not support an energy transition.

He explains that it is physically impossible to build enough solar and wind to replace all hydrocarbons plus nuclear as a reliable energy source.

Intermittency will be a huge issue if we rapidly switch to these alternatives.

● Tom argues that the problem with electricity generated from wind or solar is that it’s fleeting. It needs to be stored.

Today’s energy storage options, like batteries, are not advanced enough to take on the job of replacing hydrocarbons.

As Tom states, oil and gas are dense, transportable energy storage mediums with which batteries cannot yet compete.

● While Tom remains convinced that fossil fuel production will need to increase (not decrease!) in the coming decades, he and our host Peter Perri had a healthy discussion on how hydrogen might facilitate an energy transition.

If technical hurdles related to hydrogen are addressed, Tom admits that it could provide a viable path forward.

Hydrogen offers an energy storage solution that doesn’t require huge upgrades to the power grid and provides an alternative to batteries.

For example, a wind farm could store excess energy as liquified hydrogen, as opposed to dumping it onto the grid.”

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FROM THE THREAD

Tom's notes 7

  1. Tom Kirkman

    It was an interesting discussion Peter Perri. It's fun going into a conversation with a simple starting point, and then let the back and forth debate flow organically into unexpected directions.

  2. Tom Kirkman

    Thanks Joseph. Perhaps the general public are more open to rational discussion about energy than much of the media would have us believe.

  3. Tom Kirkman

    Thanks Stuart Turley. This was a bit different format than my podcasts with you and Armando Cavanha. As a general guideline, politics was not discussed.

    I was advised that the general target audience was CEOs, Boards of Directors, and corporate investors, so I reined in my normally, erm ... *outspoken* presentation to fit the target business audience.

    Apparently it was the first time the program had a guest on who has offshore oil & gas experience.
    And it was indeed a thought provoking discussion.

    Not kidding, I'm impressed that Peter Perri was actually able to get me to reconsider some of my views about hydrogen. I do appreciate anyone who can get me to stop, think, reconsider, re-evaluate, and adjust accordingly.

  4. Tom Kirkmanreplying to Armando Cavanha

    well, I had fun in the discussions : )

  5. Tom Kirkman

    Agreed.

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