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June 11, 2025 · 3 min read

The universe “bounce” theory fails at basic logic

Tom KirkmanIndependent Project Manager

A new Science theory says that our universe was created by being “bounced” out of a black hole from a larger “Parent Universe”.

⚫ But *how* did this larger parent universe originate?

Massive critical thinking / logical thinking *fail* in this new “bounce” theory of the creation of the universe.

Amusingly, the claim is made that this new scientific model about the “bounce” creation of the universe makes predictions which can be “thoroughly tested”.

^ 2nd critical thinking / logical thinking *fail*.

It’s as though the “Stupid Button” gets pressed when something is labeled as “Science”.

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“The Universe may not have started with the Big Bang, but instead “bounced” out of a massive black hole formed within a larger “parent” universe, according to a new scientific paper.

Professor Enrique Gaztanaga, from the University of Portsmouth’s Institute of Cosmology and Gravitation, said that the current Big Bang theory was problematic as the laws of physics “broke down” when used to explain it.

⚫ His new explanation, published in the journal Physical Review D, suggests that the Universe was formed as a result of a gravitational collapse in a larger universe which generated a massive black hole leading to a rebound or “bounce” causing our universe to emerge.

Professor Gaztanaga said: “The Big Bang model begins with a point of infinite density where the laws of physics break down.

“This is a deep theoretical problem that suggests the beginning of the Universe is not fully understood.

>>> [ Insert my amused remark: YA THINK? ] <<<

“We’ve questioned that model and tackled questions from a different angle – by looking inward instead of outward.

⚫ “Instead of starting with an expanding universe and asking how it began, we considered what happens when an over-density of matter collapses under gravity.”

Prof Gaztanaga explained that the theory developed by his team of researchers worked within the principles of quantum mechanics and the model could be tested scientifically.

He said: “We’ve shown that gravitational collapse does not have to end in a singularity and found that a collapsing cloud of matter can reach a high-density state and then bounce, rebounding outward into a new expanding phase.

⚫ “Crucially, this bounce occurs entirely within the framework of general relativity, combined with the basic principles of quantum mechanics. What emerges on the other side of the bounce is a universe remarkably like our own. …

“We now have a fully worked-out solution that shows the bounce is not only possible – it’s inevitable under the right conditions.

⚫ “One of the strengths of this model is that it makes predictions that can be thoroughly tested. ⚫

And what’s more this new model has also revealed that the Universe is slightly curved, like the surface of the Earth.” …

irishnews.com ↗

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Tom's notes 14

  1. Tom Kirkman

    Simon Derricutt, your comment is thoughful and insightful, thank you.

    Agreed, the foundations of theories need to be correct.

    I pointed out the critical fail in the theory in my intro.

    ●》Trying to explain the origins of the universe as simply an "offspring" of a larger "parent universe", does not explain how the "parent universe" came into existence.

    Not sure why this ^ point is so difficult for these scientists to comprehend.

    Their "bounce" theory of the origin of this universe from a "parent universe" is simply adding a layer of intellectual and scientific obfuscation to an actual *origin* theory.

    The "magician's distraction trick" of claiming their scientific model's prediction can be tested is transparently misleading.

    They need to stop ignoring how their theory of a larger "parent universe" came into being, rather than convoluting around a "bounce" theory.

    Just my opinion.

    I'm *not* a scientist, but I *am* able to think and ask questions about "logic fails".

  2. Tom Kirkman

    Thanks Fabrice Toussaint.
    Your comparison of Anthropogenic Climate Change to the Big Bang theory seems apt, at least to me.

    Experts saying that we are not allowed to question *either theory* proves logically that both theories have holes.

    ● When you are not allowed to ask legitimate questions on a topic, something is flawed within that particular topic.

  3. Tom Kirkmanreplying to John Mayer

    the ending monologue by Steve Martin is awesome !

    And very much applicable here 😆

  4. Tom Kirkman

    John Shurr

    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tomkirkman_science-duck-observing-schr%C3%B6dingerskittens-activity-7317253108865146880-33m0

  5. Tom Kirkmanreplying to Dean Field

    clearly, we need to go deeper.

    Time to come up with a Science Theory that our universe a *Grandchild Universe* which bounced out of a black hole from a bigger *Parent Universe* which was bounced from a black hole from an even bigger *Grandparent Universe*.

    See the logic?

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